Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Whirr, whirr,whirr, whirr....

Do you hear that? It's the sound of Archbishop Worlock spinning in his grave.


Blogger Patricius said...

Jolly well hope not!

It could cause serious structural damage to the cathedral!

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Adam said...


If it brings that ugly Cathedral down it can only be a good thing!

12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets leave subjective comments about the cathedral that so many liverpudlians built as a sign of their love for Christ and the Blessed Sacrament aside - but yes to Patricius' comment - i'm sure there is spinning going on!!!!

12:10 PM  
Blogger A Catholic Comes Home said...

Hahahahahah.Love it!

2:30 PM  
Anonymous Louis said...

According to Miss Joan Diamond (RIP) the former LMS rep in Liverpool, Archbishop Worlock had agreed to celebrate the old Mass for the LMS in the last months of his life. He died before he could do so.

I doubt that anyone has kept any of the Liverpool LMS newsletters from that period, so you'll have to take my word for it. (However, there is an article in an edition of Venerabile,the journal of the English College in Rome, dating sometime from the late 80s, which mentions Abp Worlock celebrating terce in the martyrs chapel, that year, wearing buskins and sandals which belonged to Cardinal Griffin.)

5:44 PM  
Blogger Paulinus said...


You live and learnand I don't doubt you. Perhaps my prejudices are from having read too much Alice Thomas Ellis.

The whirring sound could be Bugnini, of course.

5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even in the 1990s, Archbishop W continued to wear the rochet under the alb, even though it had become optional in 1968; he was the only UK bishop I ever saw doing so.

6:23 PM  
Blogger Paulinus said...

How interesting. I found this relating to the infamous National Pastoral Congress:
In a letter to the Latin Mass Society the Archbishop said: "I am quite willing to agree to the proposal that a Mass in accordance with the Old Rite be celebrated at the time of the Congress."

I still think he would be spinning, though....

9:04 PM  
Anonymous Louis said...

I would second the comment about Abp Worlock wearing the rochet under his alb. He also habitually wore Cardinal Griffin's jeweled pectoral cross, which contained relics, (Abp Nichols wore it at his enthronement at Westminster).

I wonder if the return of the Extraordinary Form might have been better received had Abp Worlock been still around, seriously. He is well remembered for trimming his sails, which was reflected in his less-well-known maxim "When in doubt follow Peter."

Liverpool 1980: apparently, one of the complaints from participants at the time was that the liturgies were too triumphalistic, and that was before Worlock founded the cathedral orchestra so he could pontificate on solemn feasts to the strains of Haydn, Mozart or even on occasion Beethoven!

9:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what Jesus would think of one of his apostolic successors dressed in such style?

12:22 AM  
Blogger Paulinus said...


I wonder what he would think about those who consider polyester a worthy fabric for his Mass.

3:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can never read too much Alice Thomas Ellis.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have a fairly good idea of what Jesus wore at the last supper, the first Mass, as we are told which of his clothes the Roman soldiers shared between them at his crucifixion. Neither embroidered silk nor polyester; nor alb nor rochet nor buskin nor jewelled pectoral cross...

12:37 PM  
Blogger David O'Neill said...

Yes, 'Anonymous', but He hadn't been recognised on earth as the Son of God. To the majority when He was on earth He was just a rabble rouser.
Surely noe that He IS recognised as the Son of God we should give Him all honour & glory. Bishop Davies (& Bishop Drainey) should be complimented on dressing in finery suitable for the office they hold (remember it is the office not the man) when celebrating or presiding at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

7:02 PM  
Blogger Paulinus said...

Thank you, David. You put it better than I could. Or did.

7:17 PM  

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