Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Pre-Conciliar Catholicism

I tell you, it's a good job the hippies who taught me RE in High School warned me about what the Pre-Conciliar Church was like. I mean, you can see it here can't you? No role for the laity; a joyless, unlovely liturgy; racist and Eurocentric; no involvement of women and children; priests completely removed from the life of lay people - a caste apart.

Take a look yourself in these pictures from Life, just to see how miserable people were in their faith before the Council.

Thank God for Eagle's Wings.

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Blogger PJMULVEY said...

I lived during this time and was an altar boy in the late fifties and early sixties. Contrary to common opinion, church life was at its peak and when I went to the seminary, there were over 30 boys in my class in 1963. Ten years later, the religious order closed the seminary for want of candidates. Although I am not a traditionalist Catholic nor a liberal, I miss the pre-Vatican II church. Whether the social and cultural upheaval of the 60's and 70's would have destroyed the Catholic fervor of the 40's and 50's without Vatican II we will never know. My guess that it would have had an impact but to a lesser extent.

I have begun to discuss these topics on my blog. We have similar views especially with regard to the cultures of death and Life.


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Blogger Paulinus said...

Patrick, thank you. It is impossible to say what caused these changes - whether they were causative or coincidental. I think what we can say is that the Year Zero propagandists of the Spirit of Vatican 2 have probably been engaged in misinformation and that always makes me suspicious of their motives.

I do wonder whether the generation of priests and laity that had gone through the traumas of WW2 were not deeply traumatised and that trauma had to exorcise itself. The Holy Father himself was something of a radical before his moment of clarity in 1968.

Thanks for your comment and I'll visit your blog (I've seen your erudite comments over at Martin Kelly's blog)

9:07 PM  
Blogger Adamgv said...

Check out this new Traditionalist Catholic band that just released their first album.

From what I heard on the samples site, they sound really good.

Introducing the new Christian National Anthem: Guns & Jesus.


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