Tuesday, September 02, 2008


Yes folks, it's that time again. Ramadan is upon us and the BBC and The Guardian are wetting their pants with excitement -reminding us of this "Holy Month" (well, of course, it's only "holy" if you face towards a meteorite with your bum in the air, but hey, all religions are equal, aren't they? Except for the BBC and The Guardian some religions are more equal than others) Expect less coverage of the annual Church burnings and forced conversions in the next few weeks.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

All members of Tower Hamlets Council in east London, where 36 per cent of the population follows Islam, were sent an email asking them to abide by the restrictions observed by strict Muslims during the holy month.

They have also been told that the town hall's business agenda will be reduced throughout Ramadan to accommodate Muslims, with only seven committee meetings scheduled and special prayer breaks included in the evening events.

Ever felt a stranger in your own land?

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Blogger Ponte Sisto said...

Nothing like good old British equality... and this is nothing like it!

When does the public slaughter of the lambs occur? I thought it was Eid, but nearly all the Islamic festivals seem to have the word "Eid" in them... Eid al ***, so I don't know.

9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't say I like the tone of your comments.

Firstly Islam is a faith which worships our God, known as Allah by Islam, but that term is used by many Christians of the Middle East. The prayer ritual they use - bums in the air -is a Christian practice which Islam copied and is still used in the Coptic Church, including the part you and I are in communion with. Facing a meteorite is as crude as saying facing the rising sun (ad orientem); you will appreciate the symbolism of both.

We are required in our Catholic Faith to welcome the stranger in our land (corporal works of mercy), and we should rejoice that these people are worshipping our God and having an impact on our secular society. Perhaps it allows us the opportunity to show that God is one but three. It is the search for God which leads to Christ. It is therefore much better that people begin to see our God in Islam than face spiritual death in secularism.

So perhaps you need to reflect on what you have written and on our Catholic Faith handed down by the apostles.

Yous should rejoice that you feel as a stranger in your own land, for this is how a Christian is meant to be: our Land is the Kingdom of Heaven (the first-fruits of which is the Church), our King is Jesus Christ, for whom the Pope is the Vicar, our culture is Catholicism, our language love. Unless of course you are an anglican, or scottish presbyterian...

10:09 PM  
Blogger Ponte Sisto said...

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10:49 PM  
Blogger Ponte Sisto said...

"Firstly Islam is a faith that worships our God."

Not at all!

There is only one Faith, one Lord and one Church. Jesus Christ is true God and true man; the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who revealed Himself in the second person of the Triune Godhead and who abides with us by His Holy Spirit. When Christians pray in Arabic, it is not the deity of Islam that invoke, but the one true God.

Muslims are in error, in the same way that other unitarians are, such as Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. Islam is not a religion (the Pope made this clear when he said that only Judaism and Christianity could claim to be authentic religions), but rather an elaborate heresy that built upon the errors of the early heretics, such as Arius.

It is a *work of mercy to instruct the ignorant*.

Giving pride of place to heretical traditions, whatever their origin, is to fail in our Christian duty.

We must show our love and respect for Muslims by sharing the Gospel as no one can come to the Father except through Christ. It is essential that we do this. Islam is a synthesis of confused ideas and heresies which denies the Divinity of Christ. How can we let our fellow men live in such darkness when we have been blessed with the light of the Faith!

Or, does such an argument offend the modernist and liberal "gospel" of our age? We must all choose whom we serve, God or the world.

10:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear ponte sisto,

I suggest you read the catechism of the catholic church before you deny our God:

para 841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (LG)

12:48 AM  
Blogger Paulinus said...


Firstly whilst Islam may profess to worship the God of Abraham, a Muslim's understanding of Our Father is very different from a Christian's. At best Islam is a heresy but there is an argument to say that there are elements of Islam that incorporate the cult of the pagan moon-god of which Mecca was the central site of pilgrimage (the crescent moon, the orientation to the meteorite in the Kabah)

Secondly, I do respect those quietist Muslims who in sincerity of heart believe they do worship the God of Abraham. I'd like them to go a step further and become Christians. I deeply oppose militant, politically-oriented proselytising Muslims.

Thirdly in welcoming the stranger (and the UK has one of the proudest records in the world of welcoming refugees) and respecting their legitimate right to practice their faith, one does not necessarily take upon oneself their customs any more than one would expect a predominantly Muslim country to take on the customs of Christianity (though a little reciprocity in Iran and Saudi Arabia for Christians bearing in mind the forebearance this country gives would not go amiss)

Thirdly, we have a duty to the Muslims who do come to our land to evangelise them and offer them the Good News of Jesus Christ.

Fourthly, it is not the duty of the civil power in this country or the fourth estate (especially when that organ is state-funded) to give special treatment to or act as an organ of propaganda for Islam in any of its form. I give you a wager if you are brave enough to take it that the BBC and The Guardian will not give such coverage to the celebration of Lent (or for that matter Diwali of Chanukkah) and that Catholic employees of Tower Hamlets will not be afforded a room in which to say the rosary at any time of year.

Finally ,

Can't say I like the tone of your comments.

Since you choose to be anonymous I can't say who you are. Your breathtaking hauteur on my blog will not go unchallenged. I couldn't give a rat's ass whether or not you like my tone.You chose to come here. I don't like your Tabletista defeatism in the face of a culture war. Your attitude was hardly that which won the day at Vienna in 1683 or Lepanto in 1571.

You need to learn some manners on other peoples' blogs: if I encounter such cheek again your comments will be ruthlessly deleted. Capisce?

9:05 AM  
Blogger GJ Tryon said...

"Can't say I like the tone of your comments." If it's tone you're after, Anonymous, try the Koran, where the prey on them, flay them, and slay them face of "our God," a God of love, is frequently highlighted. Politically correct catechisms notwithstanding, any "faith" that repudiates Christ's divinity, vilifies the Jew, and, as Jesus himself warns against, destroys both the body and the soul, has set itself as far outside the Christian, not to say Catholic, dispensation as can be, short of very hell. "By their fruits ye shall know them," He said. And the fruits of Allah, quondam moon god, are darkness, destruction and death.

5:51 PM  

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