Thursday, March 13, 2008


It looks like his Lordship, Joseph Devine, Bishop of Motherwell has put cat among the pigeons. He's been giving his thoughts on sectarianism and secularism in the light of the Second Vatican Council at the Gonzaga Lectures - a series of public lectures organised by the local Jesuit school - St Aloysius College.
This from the BBC: Bishop criticises gay community [How dare he?]

A Catholic bishop has claimed gay campaigners are conspiring against Christian traditions. The Bishop of Motherwell, Joseph Devine, made the comments at a lecture in Glasgow. [Well the evidence is fairly convincing, isn't it? Look HERE for Peter Tatchell disrupting Holy Mass as an obvious example. The whole of the SORs affair. Rocco Butiglione's rejection as an EU commissioner]

The bishop said the gay community had aligned itself with minority groups, including Holocaust survivors, to make it appear they were under persecution. [Well that would seem to be beyond dispute. One need only look at the weird alliance of lefties, gay activists and hard-line Islamists supporting Ken Livingstone . The victim mentality has been ingrained in order to give a sense of resentment. Given that, said Islamists would throw said gay activists off a cliff without thinking too much about it is a contradiction inherent in the system.While I'm on the subject, it's laughable that Muslims make such a fuss about Holocaust memorial day, given that Bosnian Muslims had their own Waffen SS Division.Hearing Muslims getting worked up about whether or not they should attend Holocaust memorial day is a bit like Gary Glitter worrying about whether he should volunteer to work on Childline.]

His comments have been condemned by gay rights groups and Holocaust survivor organisations. [Well there's a big surprise. Oddly enough, however, the Holocaust victims are not cited by the BBC - I would suspect that's straight out of the fertile imagination of the jouranlist. But Stonewall exists to harrumph in the way that used to be traditional amongst retired colonels in the Home Counties]

At the lecture, at St Aloysius' College on Tuesday, the bishop reportedly said: "We neglect the gay movement at our peril." [He never said a truer word]

He also singled out Oscar-winning actor Sir Ian McKellen, who has been honoured for his services to gay rights, pointing out that Oscar Wilde had been jailed for homosexual acts 100 years ago. [Homosexuals have been jailed in Sir Ian's lifetime, never mind 100 years ago. How things change]

He added that there was a "huge and well-orchestrated conspiracy" taking place, which the Catholic community had missed. [Well some of you might have but some of us have been keeping a beady eye on the likes of Peter Tatchell, Brian Paddick, I'm not sure His Lordship is right in it being a conspiracy in the strict sense, more a zeitgeist, but it's unmistakaby there]

Calum Irving, the director of Stonewall Scotland, which promotes equality and justice for gay people, said Bishop Devine's comments were delusional and offensive.[Delsuional - a bit harsh, but then most secularists beileve Christians are delusional for the simple fact of belief. Offensive? From Stonewall? That's rich]

He said: "Attacks on the so called 'gay lobby' are one thing but to say that gay people have no place in Holocaust memorial day is shameful. [Not sure he said that, Calum. He merely said you had a victim mentality.In truth, there should be a strong presence of Catholic priests at Holocaust memorial day given that over 1000 Catholic priests died at Dachau]

"Fortunately most Scots and many Christians do believe in equality, dignity and respect and reject the very dark and cynical view of Scotland the bishop seeks to portray."[Well I'm sure Bishop Devine believes in equality, dignity and respect. I've met him. I've rarely met anyone less cynical. It's just that his job is to uphold the teachings of the Catholic Church]

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hear hear hear!

By the way, please read my blog now about the Scottish Government consultation. All very sinister if you ask me.

8:21 PM  
Anonymous Oliver said...

Well, Vatican 2 encourages acceptance of deviants (or gays, as you call them) and equality is very conciliar! Also, I don't regard the profitable 'holocaust' industry any different from the queer industry; both are subversive and successful in tying modern Catholics in knots. The Catholic hierarchy for decades has compromised with our social engineers and I can't see it now complaining beyond an occasional bleat. Too little, too late.

4:41 AM  
Blogger Paulinus said...

Oliver I'm sorry if you have a problem with the teaching of the Ctholic Church. Good Catholics don't. It's a Catholic thing, y'know?

1:06 PM  

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