Sunday, December 23, 2007

The Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite as it should be celebrated

Ad orientem, in Latin and with Gregorian Chant - propers and ordinary of the Mass using the Graduale Romanum or Graduale Simplex. 4pm every Sunday at St Patrick's, Anderston, in Glasgow sung by Fr Gerry Byrne's Schola Glasguensis. It’s great. My 6 and 8 year old sons love it.

Here's how the Archbishop announced it in the Archdiocesan newspaper, Flourish

This is a strange choice of words. “I am authorising”. Question: Can a bishop forbid the licit celebration of Mass according to the Ordinary Form in his diocese where this is celebrated by priests not juridically impeded?



Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two thoughts:

1) you lucky fish;

2) no, he cannot "authorise" it. It is not forbidden; moreover it is mandated (see Sacrosanctum Concilium). We are accustomed to the selfish notion that Mass in the vernacular is a norm; it is rather a concession.

So...your "lucky fish" Mass is actually the way Sacrosanctum Concilium envisaged Mass.

Give me advance notice next time: you might have me dropping in to visit. :-D

2:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mm. Good question!

5:52 PM  
Blogger Fr Ray Blake said...

How strange that little remark about "suitably qualified priests". What has happened in his diocese that the norm requires, "suitably qualified priests".

12:42 AM  
Blogger Fr Justin said...

Lots of puzzles here: I agree with you and your commentators above, but would add that the 'authorisation' is probably simply a signal to the other priests of the diocese that this Mass has the knowledge and approval of the ordinary, so there's no use complaining to him about it.
It may well be also a sort of Methodone for those who would really prefer the Mass to be in the Extraordinary form, of course.

7:57 AM  
Blogger Fr Justin said...

On second thoughts, I don't agree with Mark that this would have been the Mass that S.Concilium wanted. The Council Fathers simply wanted a little use of the vernacular to be possible and fewer repetitions (probably doublings of antiphons and readings) within the ancient rites of the Church. There was no suggestion of mandating a Novus Ordo.

8:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fr Justin:

I actually agree with you, in that the novus ordo has gone too far. However in rough, vague terms, the Mass at St Patrick's is at least nearer what was wanted.

8:25 AM  
Blogger Paulinus said...

It may well be also a sort of Methodone for those who would really prefer the Mass to be in the Extraordinary form, of course.

LOL. The punters don't seem to be EF junkies, but I like the metaphor.

9:20 AM  
Blogger A Simple Sinner said...

I just got authorization from my bishop to breather! I was sure turning blue...

I hope I get the authorization to eat soon. I am getting very hungry.

12:19 PM  
Anonymous Wessex said...

But nonetheless the Vatican has encouraged the widespread use of the vernacular over the decades whatever straight jacket was put on the old Mass. Indeed, she has joined in with her own menu of experimentation. If the example set by Rome has been repeated in the dioceses, no wonder the conciliar liturgy has ended up a dog's dinner. A further application of antiquity will only add to the overall mess.

9:51 AM  
Blogger John said...

Can bishops forbid it?
Probably not.

Will that stop them trying? Probably not.

Same old, same old.

11:15 PM  

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